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I have been witnessing the phenomenon occurring in the Cape Fear area of NC for the past several years as a winter resident of Oak Island.  Everyone knows of what they call the Seneca Guns but no one seems to be looking into the reason for its' booms and shakes.  I call the booms "Chuts".  It is evident that this is a world wide concern and I am looking for some direction in my launching of research into it and finding all locations (Plaads) where it is experienced.  Attached is my first writing on my theory:Chuts and Plaads

If there a comments I would appreciate them.

Bob Morris

Ed ~ I have read the theory and found glaring unscientific points (mostly to do with the orbital mechanics), but dismissing those errors, there are valid reasons to pursuing this research. My suggestion is to research the (on going?) effects of the last ice age had on the region, and localised unusual meteorological effects.



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All afternoon, our newsroom has been flooded with calls, emails and twitter messages, about a loud boom heard in, and around, Mt. Pleasant.
Weve gotten emails from Dunes West, Rivertowne Country club, Seaside farms, Hamlin Plantation, Brickyard, and even as far as Isle of Palms.
People who heard the sound described it as a loud explosion that started around 1:45pm, and only lasted for about 30 to 45 seconds.

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George Howard is many things. He is the president of the Raleigh-based Restoration Systems mitigation bank and a conservationist; he is a history buff, a science geek, a cartographer. The 42-year-old family man is a talented amateur artist, a dedicated if unprolific fisherman and a politico whose office photos show him chummy with folks including Jesse Helms, Newt Gingrich, Lauch Faircloth and both George Bushes.
But what really gets Howard going - gets him talking a mile a minute, playing hooky from work and waking up at night - is his research into a geographical oddity known as the Carolina Bays.
These elliptical, wetland depressions, often rimmed with white, crystalline sand, are sprinkled along much of the North Carolina coast and parts of the eastern seaboard from Georgia to the District of Columbia. To Howard and those who share both his interest and his theory, these droplet-shaped dents (often choked with bay trees, hence the name) were most likely caused by a life-obliterating comet that landed on earth about 13,000 years ago: in geologic terms, quite recently. Howard wants to prove this, and he wants the world to take note.

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Scientists in the mid-1900s devoted careers to their study, debated furiously in print, were celebrated, vilified, laughed at and honoured, all in an attempt to explain what gouged out half a million shallow divots along the East Coast.
The subtle marks are called Carolina bays, a name so breathtakingly misleading that almost no one these days has heard of them. The bays are not connected to the sea or to rivers, so they are not really bays. Only a few hold water, and these look so much like ordinary lakes that some are, in fact, named Lake This or Lake That. They are not restricted to the Carolinas, but instead are found in great numbers from New Jersey to Georgia, with hundreds along the Eastern Shore and Virginia Beach.
Nobody knows what made them.

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Title: Formation of the Carolina Bays: ET Impact vs. Wind-and-Water
Authors: Robert Kobres, George A. Howard, Allen West, Richard B. Firestone, James P. Kennett, David Kimbel, Wes Newell
(Sponsor: George A. Howard)

The Carolina Bays are a group of lakes, wetlands, and depressions, stretching from Florida to New Jersey along the Atlantic Ocean, and ranging up to 11 km in length and about 15 m in depth. Their distinctive elliptical shapes and common orientation towards the Great Lakes region have generated many hypotheses about their method of formation, including extraterrestrial impact (Melton and Schriever, 1933; Prouty, 1934). Another suggests that springs or groundwater dissolution of soluble minerals caused subsidence, which formed water-filled depressions that became the Bays (Johnson, D.W., 1944). One of the prevailing views is that Carolina Bays represent irregular lakes that were gradually reshaped into ellipses by circulating lake currents, generated by strong ice-age winds blowing perpendicular to the current long axes of the Bays (Kaczorowski, 1977). We report results from a suite of cores taken from within a Bay, which we have named “Howard Bay,” located about 2 km north of the town of Duart in Bladen County, North Carolina. Located on the high western bluff of the Cape Fear River, the Bay is 2.7 km long, 1.6 km wide, and filled with about 9 meters of sediment with an encircling rim that is $\sim$1-meter high. Analyses of seven cores along the long axis of Howard Bay reveal an assemblage of abundant magnetic grains, microspherules, carbon spherules, glass-like carbon, and iridium, typical of the YDB impact layer (12.9 ka) at many other sites across North America. The impact layer conforms to the basal contours of the basin, suggesting that the markers were deposited immediately or soon after the Bay formed. Further analyses of samples in complete core sequences reveal that, unlike typical, peat-rich Carolina Bays, Howard Bay essentially lacks peat, diatoms, pollen, or other organic materials, suggesting that this Bay never stored water for any sustained length of time. Furthermore, several trenches confirm that the deepest part of the Bay is filled with >6 m of cross-bedded eolian sand with no evidence of lacustrine sedimentation. This evidence calls into question prevailing hypotheses (a) that all Bays were lakes and ponds in the past and that their shapes were formed by wave action, or (b) that groundwater movement led to subsidence that formed the Bay. The presence of impact markers, including high concentrations of iridium, in a layer just above the basal sediments of this Bay that is filled with eolian sand supports the extraterrestrial impact hypothesis for Bay formation.

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The News 2 Newsroom has been flooded with calls about the mystery rumble observed this morning.  According to the National Earthquake Information Centre, there is nothing to indicate there was an earthquake in the Charleston area today.  It doesn't rule out the possibility that it was a smaller quake, but it was most likely a sonic boom.

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Citadel professor rejects meteor theory of Carolina bays’ origin

Were they formed by the impact of a meteor striking the Earth or are they merely sink holes? The answer to how Carolina bays were formed is not something about which scientists agree.

Carolina bays are geological depressions of mysterious origin that occur throughout the Coastal Plain of the Carolinas and Georgia. They take their name from the evergreen bay trees that typically characterise them.
Carolina bays are isolated wetlands in natural shallow depressions, which are largely fed by rain and shallow groundwater. These elliptical-shaped bays generally have a northwest to southeast orientation and vary in size from less than an acre to many acres. Water levels are normally lowest in autumn and highest in early spring; some Carolina Bays are wet all year while others fill with water, then dry up, depending on the season.
Different researchers believe Carolina bays are 30,000 to 100,000 years old or older, yet scientists are not certain of their origins. One theory suggests that a meteor hit Earth thousands of years ago, breaking into pieces that made dents as they skipped across the planet’s surface.

On March 19, Dr. Richard Porcher, a professor of biology and director of the herbarium at The Citadel, gave a presentation on Carolina bays to the Friends of Santee National Wildlife Refuge.

First described around 1750 by naturalist John Bartram, a large concentration of Carolina bays is found in South Carolina’s coastal plain, some 4,000, but they also occur in southeastern North Carolina and northeastern Georgia.


The first aerial photo of Carolina Bays, taken in 1930.

"The bays are clumped and not randomly located. I have used this against a shower of meteorites because a shower of meteorites would seem to form a random pattern. These bays are discretely in certain areas, and even in a clump they seem to march in a line. To me, it is difficult to get that type of pattern from a shower of meteorites" - Dr. Richard Porcher

One of the features of the Carolina bays is normally that they have a high, elevated sand ridge along their southeastern side. In keeping with the meteorite theory, the meteorite struck and pushed out a depression, and as it struck, it pushed up a sand ridge. Some of these elevations have multiple sand ridges.


Orientation of the bays points back to a common point of origin to the northwest.
Position: 34°17'27.53"N 78°30'42.31"W

"So, if you believe a meteorite hit, you have to believe a meteorite struck here and pushed up the first ridge. Another struck right behind it and pushed up the second and so on. Some of these bays have six or seven ridges" - Dr. Richard Porcher.

Another theory on the creation of Carolina bays is that they were formed over a long period of time. Some think they were formed by artisan wells, or sink holes. However, as Porcher explained, there are “holes” is all these theories, so the bottom line is no one theory holds water.
They are puzzling, unsolved, geological phenomena.

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What's being described as a big boom shook houses along the coast of North Carolina late Tuesday afternoon.

The boom could be felt from Ogden to Carolina Beach and in some cases Brunswick County. Some people described it as a loud bang. Others say it was like several explosions. They say their windows rattled and homes shook under the force.
One theory is a natural phenomena called Seneca Guns. It's never been fully explained but people along the coast have talked about it for centuries. Some say the sound originates when chunks of the continental shelf drop into the Atlantic Ocean.
It doesn't just happen along the coast. In fact, the name comes from Seneca Lake in New York where the big booms have been heard for years.

Five years ago, the Seneca Guns fired here. A scientist from UNCW said the rumbling came from the ocean, and there were various theories but no rock solid explanation. He said there was nothing to worry about. It was just noise. No one was hurt then and no damage was recorded.
Some other theories to explain Tuesday afternoon's boom are methane gas exploding on the ocean floor, an atmospheric event or a sonic boom.

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